The company said this did not represent a reversal of its previous stance, but rather the result of reconsidering how it interprets its existing policies.
We’re not taking back what we said about how we wouldn’t kick Nazis off the platform… but we’re kicking Nazis off the platform.
What a fucking laugh. Fuck Substack.
I agree, it’s a tiny step in the right direction, but definitely too little too late.
It’s not though, like they say themselves it’s only a reconsideration of the existing policies which is to maximize profit, morals be dammed. First they welcomed Nazis because Nazis gave them money and now they don’t because Nazis cause other people to stop giving them money. If Nazis wasn’t bad business nothing would have changed. This whole ordeal showed what kind of people they are.
Plus, they can’t even admit they’re caving to public pressure. Ego-ridden Nazi sympathizers, weird how that keeps happening.
They’ll just do something similar to what Musk did on Shitter initially, pretend to kick them off and then quietly let them back on.
I miss interpreted the rrrrrules
I can’t believe we’re praising companies for not being evil dickheads now
Yeah this deserves no praise. This falls squarely under “Fuck around, find out” since it wasn’t even weeks ago that they said they wouldn’t remove Nazis from the platform.
They’re still angling for a way to allow hate speech on their platform, they’re just hiding behind “taking down content that incites violence” as if that in itself isn’t bare fucking minimum expectation to begin with.
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its new policy interpretation will not include proactively removing content related to neo-Nazis and far-right extremism. But Substack will continue to remove any material that includes “credible threats of physical harm
Not even removing nazi publications
Title gives a very wrong impression of what’s happening.
You can tell most people didn’t read the article.
And I wonder how do they define ‘credible’? Are they literally going to research a writer to determine if they’re capable of following through on their threats?
I know/knew next to nothing about substack 6 months ago.
Now I only associate them as the other platform that allows Nazis on it.
Maybe they’re trying to get Elon to buy them.
Am I crazy, or is this Bud Light-levels of corporate idiocy!?
First they piss off non-Nazis by saying they won’t remove Nazi-speech. Then they cave to the backlash and remove Nazi speech, pissing off all the Nazis (who they obviously wanted to create a “safe space” for). But everyone else won’t be coming back because of the obvious, mask-off intent…
Even if they didn’t support Nazi publications, it would be hard to stay loyal to such an incompetent company…
At least they’re trying to backtrack and weasal up to the sane side instead of just doubling down and saying, “Fuck it, yeah, we’re Nazis now.”
“We’re not backtracking, we’re just doing a 180° turn from our previous course”. Fucking clowns, probably the Nazi money wasn’t enough to compensate the loss of subscribers.
Good to know there’s still enough sane people left to make an effort like this.
Who tf is platformer.com and why should I trust this report?
5 newsletter they are removing.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/8/24030756/substack-nazi-newsletter-content-moderation
No further commitment.
Thnx.
I’m never coming back. And I was paying for multiple publications. Fuck off you Nazis.
Fuck you substack, you showed us who you are.
Didn’t take that long to walk back on the decision
They had a come to Jesus moment with Stripe.
Maybe I don’t understand Substack that well, but it seems like its market share would be extremely vulnerable. It’s just a way to provide a newsletter (also published on the web) and accept subscriptions (and presumably they take a cut). It’s really easy for someone to set this up themselves even with minimal tech skills. If they already have a following on Substack, they just tell their subscribers to move, and potentially could even import the subscriber list to a new platform. It’s not like social media where there’s a lot of boosting or whatever from others on the platform, so the switching costs are high.
So unless I’m missing something, I hope people who don’t want Nazis around just move somewhere else. Because from the sounds of this article, they’re not really doing much about the Nazis.
Since they take a cut even on the nazis lists, they are going to take a hit in any case so they simply choose the smaller one. As a company is the logical pragmatic approach to use.
Why now? Maybe they are seeing high profile defections at a higher rate?
At the very least, the term "Substack* was becoming synonymous with “Nazis.”
Still is
Cool, so all pro israel posts are getting banned?
I’ll believe it when Glinner’s blog is gone
