I know we aren’t allowed to use Chrome. We can’t use Brave. But how does the Lemmy community feel about the Vivaldi Browser? or is it still not Firefox…

  • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I know we aren’t allowed to use Chrome.

    Who says? Use whatever you want, if you want to use Chrome then use it, nobody is stopping you.

    As for Vivaldi, I personally think it’s the best Chromium browser out there, highly customizable with all the good stuff from old Opera without none of the garbage from current Opera, plus it seems to be reasonably respectful of your privacy. Their only mistake was building it on Chromium.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
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      1 year ago

      I agree, I really liked its design and featureset. But after the third time I got a crash that deleted absolutely all browser data, as if it had been re-installed, I had to ditch it. It happened months apart, with no warning. I just open it one day and everything is gone. Not cool.

  • BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    You can use any browser you want, just be aware of what the downsides are when you do.

    The issue with Chrome and Chromium based broswers is the power that Google exerts over the internet via the Blink engine. Although other companies use the same technology, Google controls it and shapes it for it’s own commerical gains.

    The other big alternative is also proprietary with Apple’s Sarfari and WebKit ecosystem.

    Vivaldi is a nice browser but it is still run by a private company and it still monetises you to an extent. In vivaldi’s case it is currently fairly inocuous - they have referral deals with search engines for the default search, and deals with companies for default bookmarks. But it seems to be currently a more trustworthy browser. Ultimately though, it is part of the Blink ecosystem and supports Google’s increasing domination of the browser engine space.

    Mozilla and Firefox remains the only truly independent browser, run in a not-for-profit and fully open source way, on the Gecko engine. It’s existance helps maintain the neutral aspects of the Web - instead of sites being designed for one browser, it encourages web site and services to be truly standards compliant. Firefox monetise users in a similar way to Vivaldi but that money is used to actually maintain and develop Gecko and other Mozilla technologies, while Vivaldi use that money to maintain Vivaldi the company - they don’t need to fund most of Blink as it’s made available by Google.

    But no one is obliged to support Firefox or open technologies. It’s a personal choice what browser you use and there are many valid reasons beyond open standards to chose a browser. I use Firefox for multiple reasons; I genuinely like it and am used to it, but I actually also use Vivaldi and even Chrome on occasions (sometimes to view crapily designed ad heavy or tracking sites without having to disable lots of privacy extensions etc in firefox to make it work; I use Chrome as a bog standard sandbox when I want to dump crap sites out of my main browser but still want to quickly view it for whatever reason).

    Pick a browser you like and don’t feel guilty if that happens to be chrome based.

  • 1984@lemmy.today
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    1 year ago

    Firefox is the only good choice since everything else is built on chromium.

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    1 year ago

    It’s chromium but has a special place in my heart because it’s made by the og Opera people, when Opera used its own engine. I still use Firefox but if I ever switched it would probably be to Vivaldi.

  • YTG123@feddit.ch
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    1 year ago

    Use whatever you want. But do consider if you want to contribute to Google’s monopoly, and if you want to use an open-source browser.

    • Vivaldi Browser is not open source. Better use Brave than that…
    • If you still really hate Firefox, Ungoogled Chromium which is basically Chrome with all the Google stuff removed.
    • All of the above do still contribute to Google’s monopoly, so I would really encourage Firefox or a fork.
    • Barring that, you could also get away with a WebKit browser (like GNOME web, Nyxt). Although WebKit is developed by Apple, it’s still open source and doesn’t look particularly bad. If you’re on a Mac, Safari is an option, but it’s closed source.
  • gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top
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    1 year ago

    When I started looking for a different browser, I almost chose Vivaldi. Then I discovered it was based on chromium os in the end I opted for Firefox

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      1 year ago

      It’s my daily driver on my phone. I have Firefox on desktop, but back when I wanted a more privacy focused browser on my phone too, mobile Firefox was still dogshit. I got vivaldi instead and haven’t really felt the need to switch.

  • dantheclamman@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I would say Vivaldi is my favorite Chromium browser, carrying forward the values of OG Opera from when I was a teenager. A browser for people who love to customize and want everything but the kitchen sink in one suite. Sadly, unlike Opera, which ran its own Presto browser engine, Vivaldi is somewhat leashed by Google, due to it running on Chromium. So I mostly use Firefox

  • imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Ignore the fanbois here. Vivaldi is solid. I will ditch it like an old sock if they end up having to adopt the new standards Google is pushing though. I’m confident Vivaldi will fight doing so until bitter end. I hope they are even willing to switch engines if needbe.