Like most things, it’s a mix of factors. If there’s a culling there will be less supply which will result in higher prices temporarily. But the few companies that control production are kinda just taking their time in lowering the prices once the supply issues are resolved. So there’s a real issue, but there’s also greed making it worse than it should be.
What if I told you that the 3-4 corporations that control our food supply increased prices to punish voters for not voting for a Republican in 2020? It’s been in the playbook for well over 30 years. Some musicians have even written songs with lyrics that discuss this technique.
That’s asking for a lot of sources and a compilation of research as to how I came to my inference on an internet comment. I don’t have the time to accommodate all of that, but this article touches on the corporate greed aspect somewhat concisely: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/price-of-food
Songs regarding what I’m talking about… off the top of my head the one I think of first is Propaghandi - “A People’s History of the World.” The last lyrics:
*"Yeah, you can vote however the fuck you want
But power still calls all the shots
And believe it or not
Even if democracy broke loose
They’ll just make the economy scream
Until we vote responsibly"*
I also think of Fugazi - “Merchandise”
*
“Merchandise, it keeps us in line
Common sense says it’s by design
What could a businessman ever want more
Than to have us sucking in his store”*
So I agree that food in the US is 100% run by monopolies. Just look at Tyson. What I’d like a source for though personally, is your claim that these monopolies have “had it in the playbook for thirty years” to punish voters for not voting Republican. That specific part is the aspect that I think you actually need to source. It’s quite a claim.
Well you’re a different person than who I initially replied to, but that’s ok. I don’t have a source for my claim that this has been in the playbook for 30 years (really I meant since Reagan, so 40 would have been more accurate), similar to how I don’t have a source for the claim that media paid for and created by and for capitalistic interest is not likely to accurately or fairly paint truly leftist viewpoints. Things will always be painted to say “see, look how great capitalism is; and look how bad socialism is!” It’s one of those logical conclusions one should arrive at when considering an oligarchy bordering on feudalism. Just like the media propaganda of “see how great capitalism is” refuses to acknowledge any counter-point, the same tactic has been used over and over again on questions of the economy and executive branch with who’s in power at the time of the question being asked.
One can easily arrive at the conclusion that companies standing to earn higher profits by cutting regulations, busting unions, and squeezing people for basic necessities (all things the Republicans love doing), would make decisions that try to sway or influence voters based on swings in the left or right wing of our right-wing government. You want people to vote for the candidate that will de-regulate and make things easier for your business four years from now… blame the rising cost of goods on the party that’s trying to regulate you and make things more difficult for your business interests; bonus if you can collect more money while doing so.
I get where you’re coming from, but idk man, it’s not that hard to buy a democratic senator to vote the way you want. I think simply assuming that every corporation is pushing for Republicans, and is targeting Democrat voters is probably a slippery slope, but that said I get that in the US corpos tend to suck regardless of which side of the isle they have decided to purchase. It’s a shame you didn’t have any more concrete sources though, that kind of claim you made earlier would be fun to throw around if I were able to back it up lol. As it is, personally I doubt that the rising prices are due to anything beyond corporate greed alongside several external factors like bird flu and eggs in CO being required by law now to be cage free.
No one is targeting democratic voters specifically. It’s all voters.
When you say “buying a democrat” it leads me to believe that you’re interpreting the Democratic Party as the option on the left; it’s really just another right wing option. Leftism is not represented in the US at all.
Most corporations absolutely do prefer Republican policy; it allows them to get away with more bullshit.
What kind of “concrete” evidence do you need? There’s a history of everything I am saying. I don’t need to beat up Nick Siriani and steal a copy of the Eagles playbook to know the tush-push is in there. I see them run the play in most games they play.
Also, and on a different note, the “eggs in Denver” story is also kinda dumb and misleading, like a lot of the national news regarding things that happen in Colorado (let’s talk about the Venezuelan gangs in Aurora) and more specifically the Denver area. I live about 45 minutes north of Denver. When I go to the grocery store, there’s like 10 different egg options and the “cheap” eggs were like $6.50 about a month ago. The expensive eggs were $12 IIRC. 🤷♂️
At first my brain started assuming you were just memeing a monologue from Deus Ex, then I realized this was an original comment all original text. How sad is that? Lol
…just without the neat cyberpunk stuff.
And this was the game written on the unbelievable, edgy premise “…where every conspiracy theory is real.” Lol
Edit: lol weird ratio. Okay maybe I was a clumsy communicator there, I meant “How sad is it that my first thought was a Deus Ex monologue perfectly fitting with our current times, but we don’t even have sweet nanotech”.
Also, that game’s premise was trying to be just a little bit dystopianly-ridiculous, and it’s now considered prophetic.
Definitely some greed. One grocery store here charges 50% more than the other just because (imagine: it’s a Kroger owned store). Neither store is a discount or lower-end store either. Ridiculous.
And coincidentally (or no really coincidentally at all), OP’s pic looks like a Kroger owned store too based on the price tag and the inconvenience sticker. Shocker that they’d charge that price 🙄
I don’t think corporate greed is a poor excuse though.
All prices in the UK have gone up by substantial amounts over the last 5 years. While at the same time these massive corporations have recorded record profits.
If the price increases were purely inflation then it would stand to reason that profits wouldn’t have gone up so much. Clearly they’ve used inflation as an excuse to squeeze consumers as much as possible.
I am talking generally here and not specifically about eggs.
Is it truly your belief that corporations were not greedy over the last 15 years, but somehow got really greedy at the same time that there were major supply chain shocks across the planet? Or is it more likely that “corporate greed” is a more enticing answer to a complex economic problem?
If the price increases were purely inflation then it would stand to reason that profits wouldn’t have gone up so much
During inflation, the value of EVERYTHING goes up. Companies pull in more money because money is not worth as much as it was
Oh you’re misunderstanding me. I’m not saying corporations started being greedy over the last 5 years. I’m saying that they turned up the dial as far as they could. They’ve always been greedy.
By greedy I mean they have to extra t value for shareholders. Then you have pensions, UK at least, tied to the stock market making it almost impossible to change the system due to the fact we need to account for the elderly and we refuse to increase taxes by a substantial amount on obscene wealth.
Actual inflation or inflation mixed with greedy price increases?
Like most things, it’s a mix of factors. If there’s a culling there will be less supply which will result in higher prices temporarily. But the few companies that control production are kinda just taking their time in lowering the prices once the supply issues are resolved. So there’s a real issue, but there’s also greed making it worse than it should be.
What if I told you that the 3-4 corporations that control our food supply increased prices to punish voters for not voting for a Republican in 2020? It’s been in the playbook for well over 30 years. Some musicians have even written songs with lyrics that discuss this technique.
Do you have any sources for this? Also the songs that mention it? I’d like to read more about this
Sources for my claim?
That’s asking for a lot of sources and a compilation of research as to how I came to my inference on an internet comment. I don’t have the time to accommodate all of that, but this article touches on the corporate greed aspect somewhat concisely: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/price-of-food
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/COST/costco/revenue - is a good way to look at profits at a high level for the 4 major grocers (Walmart, Kroger, Costco, Albertsons) - https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/IB_2111_FoodMonoSeries1-SUPERMARKETS-V2FINAL.pdf. This touches more on the aspect of food monopolies specifically: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2021/jul/14/food-monopoly-meals-profits-data-investigation - the monopolies go beyond just food.
Songs regarding what I’m talking about… off the top of my head the one I think of first is Propaghandi - “A People’s History of the World.” The last lyrics:
*"Yeah, you can vote however the fuck you want But power still calls all the shots And believe it or not
Even if democracy broke loose They’ll just make the economy scream Until we vote responsibly"*
I also think of Fugazi - “Merchandise” * “Merchandise, it keeps us in line Common sense says it’s by design What could a businessman ever want more Than to have us sucking in his store”*
So I agree that food in the US is 100% run by monopolies. Just look at Tyson. What I’d like a source for though personally, is your claim that these monopolies have “had it in the playbook for thirty years” to punish voters for not voting Republican. That specific part is the aspect that I think you actually need to source. It’s quite a claim.
Well you’re a different person than who I initially replied to, but that’s ok. I don’t have a source for my claim that this has been in the playbook for 30 years (really I meant since Reagan, so 40 would have been more accurate), similar to how I don’t have a source for the claim that media paid for and created by and for capitalistic interest is not likely to accurately or fairly paint truly leftist viewpoints. Things will always be painted to say “see, look how great capitalism is; and look how bad socialism is!” It’s one of those logical conclusions one should arrive at when considering an oligarchy bordering on feudalism. Just like the media propaganda of “see how great capitalism is” refuses to acknowledge any counter-point, the same tactic has been used over and over again on questions of the economy and executive branch with who’s in power at the time of the question being asked.
One can easily arrive at the conclusion that companies standing to earn higher profits by cutting regulations, busting unions, and squeezing people for basic necessities (all things the Republicans love doing), would make decisions that try to sway or influence voters based on swings in the left or right wing of our right-wing government. You want people to vote for the candidate that will de-regulate and make things easier for your business four years from now… blame the rising cost of goods on the party that’s trying to regulate you and make things more difficult for your business interests; bonus if you can collect more money while doing so.
Capitalism is fucking disgusting.
I get where you’re coming from, but idk man, it’s not that hard to buy a democratic senator to vote the way you want. I think simply assuming that every corporation is pushing for Republicans, and is targeting Democrat voters is probably a slippery slope, but that said I get that in the US corpos tend to suck regardless of which side of the isle they have decided to purchase. It’s a shame you didn’t have any more concrete sources though, that kind of claim you made earlier would be fun to throw around if I were able to back it up lol. As it is, personally I doubt that the rising prices are due to anything beyond corporate greed alongside several external factors like bird flu and eggs in CO being required by law now to be cage free.
No one is targeting democratic voters specifically. It’s all voters.
When you say “buying a democrat” it leads me to believe that you’re interpreting the Democratic Party as the option on the left; it’s really just another right wing option. Leftism is not represented in the US at all.
Most corporations absolutely do prefer Republican policy; it allows them to get away with more bullshit.
What kind of “concrete” evidence do you need? There’s a history of everything I am saying. I don’t need to beat up Nick Siriani and steal a copy of the Eagles playbook to know the tush-push is in there. I see them run the play in most games they play.
Also, and on a different note, the “eggs in Denver” story is also kinda dumb and misleading, like a lot of the national news regarding things that happen in Colorado (let’s talk about the Venezuelan gangs in Aurora) and more specifically the Denver area. I live about 45 minutes north of Denver. When I go to the grocery store, there’s like 10 different egg options and the “cheap” eggs were like $6.50 about a month ago. The expensive eggs were $12 IIRC. 🤷♂️
Thanks for all that. I would not bother responding to these guys after an initial comment because I sense they are just being disingenuous.
I was being completely sincere actually. Not sure what is so offensive about asking for someone to back up a claim like that.
At first my brain started assuming you were just memeing a monologue from Deus Ex, then I realized this was
an original commentall original text. How sad is that? Lol…just without the neat cyberpunk stuff.
And this was the game written on the unbelievable, edgy premise “…where every conspiracy theory is real.” Lol
Edit: lol weird ratio. Okay maybe I was a clumsy communicator there, I meant “How sad is it that my first thought was a Deus Ex monologue perfectly fitting with our current times, but we don’t even have sweet nanotech”.
Also, that game’s premise was trying to be just a little bit dystopianly-ridiculous, and it’s now considered prophetic.
Ah, you got me. 😂
Okay my turn, since I mentioned it. Hahaha
Definitely some greed. One grocery store here charges 50% more than the other just because (imagine: it’s a Kroger owned store). Neither store is a discount or lower-end store either. Ridiculous.
And coincidentally (or no really coincidentally at all), OP’s pic looks like a Kroger owned store too based on the price tag and the inconvenience sticker. Shocker that they’d charge that price 🙄
Why not both?
Indeed!
Yes.
In this case it’s a commodity so that’s actually hard to do.
It’s just inflation. Corporate greed is a poor excuse for price increases
It’s actually just corporate greed. The “inflation” is the excuse.
So it’s your opinion that corporations were not greedy before 2020?
Ok thanks.
I don’t think corporate greed is a poor excuse though.
All prices in the UK have gone up by substantial amounts over the last 5 years. While at the same time these massive corporations have recorded record profits.
If the price increases were purely inflation then it would stand to reason that profits wouldn’t have gone up so much. Clearly they’ve used inflation as an excuse to squeeze consumers as much as possible.
I am talking generally here and not specifically about eggs.
Is it truly your belief that corporations were not greedy over the last 15 years, but somehow got really greedy at the same time that there were major supply chain shocks across the planet? Or is it more likely that “corporate greed” is a more enticing answer to a complex economic problem?
During inflation, the value of EVERYTHING goes up. Companies pull in more money because money is not worth as much as it was
Oh you’re misunderstanding me. I’m not saying corporations started being greedy over the last 5 years. I’m saying that they turned up the dial as far as they could. They’ve always been greedy.
By greedy I mean they have to extra t value for shareholders. Then you have pensions, UK at least, tied to the stock market making it almost impossible to change the system due to the fact we need to account for the elderly and we refuse to increase taxes by a substantial amount on obscene wealth.