This seems like such an obvious thing to do now that I’ve seen it

I really liked my Nothing Phone 1, but £800 is a hard sell.

You’ll be glad to know, then, that the nothing phone 2 came out in 2023, two years ago.

Not only that, but nobody is forcing you to upgrade anytime a new model comes out anyway.

That’s not even the full extent of his homophobia. He also made donations to a politician who said that AIDS is a great thing and will purge the world of gay people.

He also gave an interview about the whole being pressured to leave Mozilla thing, and said he was disappointed in how intolerant of his beliefs Mozilla staff were once they became public knowledge.

Yes, you read that right, a man who wanted to strip gay people of their rights cried about fucking intolerance towards him. Clown.

No they are not.

EU now mandates minimum of 5 years after the device is no longer on sale, so most likely 7 years total. This was a law that came into place just 1 week ago.

If you’re outside the EU it’s possible you won’t get that, but since the work is already done, you can likely count on it coming to other markets too.

Note that this is just a proposal that the Fedora community wants feedback on.

Even if it does go ahead, this is minimum 1 year away from happening.

Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if this was meant as a “hurry up and move away from Steam still being a 32-bit app, Valve!” bit of brinkmanship.

In effect, yes.

5 years minimum software support after the device is no longer on the market.

Presumably this phone will be on the market for two years (in the EU at least).

Theoretically it could be less than 7 years if they only sold it for one year, of course, but even OEMs that release phones each year like clockwork tend to keep their previous model around for a while.

Haha, we can expect to see similar announcements from other manufacturers, because the EU now mandates software support for new devices.

Even if you’re outside of the EU, you’ll benefit from this. Since the OEMs have to do it anyway, they’ll likely push the updates to all markets and market it as if they’re being nice. Nope. They’re just complying with the law to the bare minimum.

Starting on the 20th of June 2025 (just two days!), the EU is enforcing a minimum of 5 years of updates on all smartphone/tablets sold after they are withdrawn from the market.

I.e. if a model is sold for 2 years, it must receive software support for 7 years. Just like this Nothing Phone.

Source.

Ultrasonic fingerprint sensors aren’t optical like the older under-screen ones. They don’t need to go bright to get a reading.

This will not blind you, it shouldn’t boost brightness at all.

Starting on the 20th of June 2025, the EU is enforcing a minimum of 5 years of updates on all smartphone/tablets sold after they are withdrawn from the market.

I.e. if a model is sold for 2 years, it must receive software support for 7 years.

Even if you’re outside of the EU, you’ll benefit from this. Since the OEMs have to do it anyway, they’ll likely push the updates to all markets and market it as if they’re being nice.

Source.

I’m somewhat surprised there isn’t a Fedora there, it’s a pretty great and up-to-date distro. And pretty popular.

I’m also surprised Flatpak isn’t higher!

So fucking dumb.

Everybody loved OnePlus’s alert slider. Nobody wants fucking Bixby button mk2

12% faster on average, with anywhere from a 30-320% battery life improvement.

Just from a software change.

That is massive. You’d usually need a hardware upgrade for an improvement like that.

To be completely honest, I am a little annoyed about all the people bringing up price.

Well I’m so sorry you’re offended (not really), but price is relevent when you’re comparing products.

If I was looking at a comparison between two watches and the reviewer brings up price, I’d consider that relevant information.

saying that the price being free adds to the word “massive” being used aptly is just kinda dumb for real.

Again, you’re just so wrong.

If product A is better than product B, that’s bad enough. If product A also happens to be free while product B costs over $100, then that’s extremely notable and should be brought up in a comparison.

Maybe it’s your line of thinking that’s just kinda dumb for real?

It’s just like people don’t want to converse man.

You’re such a victim. Oh wait, it’s you that started being hostile and dismissive. You’re the one who doesn’t want to have a respectful discussion.

When you talk like that, you shouldn’t expect people to treat you nicely in return. People are under no obligation to treat you nicely after you treat them poorly.

It’s pretty clear that talking to you is useless

Indeed. You do seem to struggle with differing opinions, as well as the definitions of words, like how you struggle to understand there’s a massive difference in performance between Windows and SteamOS on this handheld.

I’m not glorifying shit, I’m just pointing out how very, very wrong you are.

A 12% performance boost on average, simultaneously with a battery life improvement of up to 320%, requiring nothing but a software change is massive, especially when that software is free.

Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me

Are you purposely being a clown? I brought up price, because it’s relevant in comparing two things.

Why are you so butt hurt that SteamOS is massively better on some handheld you probably don’t even own? Why are you so hurt by this news?

Yes. Massively. And I don’t know why you’re doubling down on being wrong.

12% faster with anywhere from 34% to 320% better battery life, and $130 cheaper is massively better, especially on the exact same hardware.

The difference is astonishing, tbh. I’d have expected a negligible difference.

Massively better was completely correct, and you are wrong to state otherwise. It’s that simple.

The point is Linux doesn’t solve the problem of megacorps

You still aren’t getting it.

That user already knows that Android is a heavily-forked version of Linux.

They already know that simply including some Linux code won’t magically make everything pure and wonderful, because they know that we already have Linux code in Android, and as they point out, it isn’t pure and wonderful.

it’s not like Linux on phones isn’t something that hasn’t been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.

Canonical didn’t even try with Ubuntu Touch, they never released anything to market. They did a Kickstarter that raked in more than anything else ever had, then they gave up.

I’m not certain Mozilla ever had real devices on the market either.

Besides, just because there have been two failures in the past doesn’t mean it’s impossible, or that the above user is wrong for desiring a proper Linux smartphone.

This is a very umm ackshully ☝️🤓 response.

Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution. I’d be willing to bet money the above poster knows that too. You aren’t giving us new information here.

Furthermore, I think you knew what the above user’s point was: they want a more open phone and OS landscape where users are the boss of their own software and hardware, not tech giants.

Android is, in practical terms, its own thing, under Google’s control, bundles all kinds of Google crap, and can’t be replaced on most phones.