I have observed people taking Rust seriously. You need to reexamine your assumptions.

We have an evolved capability to short-circuit decisions with a rapid emotional evaluation. It means as a species we didn’t die out early [“that’s a lion; I’m a oerson; lions eat people ergo… Agh!” is not a sustainable strategy] - what’s amazing is that we can also apply it to elarned abstract things like an aestetic sense about programming languages. Such instincts aren’t always perfect, but they’re still worth paying attention to. I don’t see a reason not to express that in a blog post, but you can replace it with “this is unergonomic and in some cases imprecise” if you prefer.

That seems like quite a lot of booms.

FWIW I was trying to do something like this and ended up with pretty much what you describe - some custom shading to get everything working.

Netware was rock solid.

Minimise your windows one at a time and check that the gnome keyring hasn’t popped up a dialog box sonewhere behind everything else that’s asking you if it’s okay to proceed.

It’s the gnome key ring ssh agent.

It’s possible that this has popped up a window asking gor permission / a passphrase / something and you’re not seeing that.

That’s only part of the handshake. It’d require agent input around that point.

Is this problem a recurring one after a reboot?

If it is it warrants more effort.

If not and you’re happy with rhe lack of closure, you can potentially fix this: kill the old agent (watch out to see if it respawns; if it does and that works, fine). If it doesn’t, you can (a) remove the socket file (b) launch ssh-agent with the righr flag (-a $SSH_AGENT_SOCK iirc) to listen at the same place, then future terminal sessions that inherit the env var will still look in the right place. Unsatisfactory but it’ll get you going again.

Okay, that agent process is running but it looks wedged: multiple connections to the socket seem to be opened, probably your other attempts to use ssh.

The ssh-add output looks like it’s responding a bit, however.

I’d use your package manager to work out what owns it and go looking for open bugs in the tool.

(Getting a trace of that process itself would be handy, while you’re trying again. There may be a clue in its behaviour.)

The server reaponse seems like the handshake process is close to completing. It’s not immediately clear what’s up there I’m afraid.

Please don’t ignore the advice about SSH_AGENT_SOCK. It’ll tell yoy what’s going on (but not why).

Without the ssh-agent invocation:

• what does ssh-add -L show?
• what is the original SSH_AUTH_SOCK value?
• what is listening to that? (Use lsof)

This kind of stuff often happens because there’s a ton of terrible advice online about managing ssh-agent - make sure there’s none if that baked into your shellrc.

I’m coming around to it.

That’s a cracking article.

My own use of jvm errors tends to follow the same kinds of patterns: I think the major fault with that model is having RuntimeException as a subclass of Exception, because it’s really intended for abandonment-style errors. (The problem is that lots of people use it instead as an exception system in order to cut down on boilerplate.)

I find it eye-opening that the author prefers callsite annotation with try (although I’m not going to argue with their experience at the time). I can see this being either “no big deal” or even “a good thing” to Rust users in particular - mutability and borrowing annotations at both callsite and definition aren’t required to make the language work afaict (your ide will instantly carp if you miss 'em out) but the increased programmer visibility is typically seen as a good thing. (Perhaps this is down to people largely reviewing PRs in a browser, I dunno.) Certainly there’s tons of good food for thought there.

I’m not sure why it’s “obviously” good to move from one mechanism to two: as a user I now have to categorise every path to work out which is appropriate.

What I said was less about adding to a function signature than it was about adding to a facade - that is, a system boundary, although the implementation may be the same depending on language. People typically use exceptions pretty badly - a function signature with a baggage-train of internal exceptions that might be thrown by implementation guts is another antipattern that gives the approach a bad rep. Errors have types too (or they should have), and the typical exception constructor has a wrapper capability for good reason.

That’s fine, and for that there are sum types. My own opinion differs - it’s a question of taste. Being able to bundle the handling of exceptional situations aside from the straight-line logic (or use RAIi-style cleanup) is notationally convenient.

Yes, you can do the same with monads; use the tools available to you.

Checked exceptions are powerful but misunderstood. Exception types are a useful part of the facade to a module - they express to a caller how it can go wrong even if used correctly.

Runtime exceptions are typically there to express contract-breaking by callers; although as an alternative return mechanism I’ve seen them used to simplify the inner workings of some frameworks.

I think they get a bad rep because there aren’t a ton of good examples of how to use them - even the java classpath had some egregious misuse initially that helped turn people off the key ideas.

Incidentally, this kind of passive-aggressive pressure is the kind of thing that might be considered a legitimate security threat, post xz. If you need to vent, vent in private. If “it works for you” but the maintainer is asking legitimate questions about the implementation, consider engaging with that in good faith and evaluating their questions with an open mind.

Which mantra is that? The ellipsis doesn’t offer a clue.

Casey’s video is interesting, but his example is framed as moving from 35 cycles/object to 24 cycles/object being a 1.5x speedup.

Another way to look at this is, it’s a 12-cycle speedup per object.

If you’re writing a shader or a physics sim this is a massive difference.

If you’re building typical business software, it isn’t; that 10,000-line monster method does crop up, and it’s a maintenance disaster.

I think extracting “clean code principles lead to a 50% cost increase” is a message that needs taking with a degree of context.

Fab, cheers.