This asshole is just exercising his options to take money from the same moderators that were up in arms over his changes last year. Make no mistake, this is Spez’s revenge.

I really hope this whole thing backfires on reddit, but I think the reality is that it will further enshittify until it’s profitable, and it’s already so big it’s unlikely to fail.

Lemmy just isn’t a replacement and I think the nature of lemmy will stop it from ever being one unless someone throws godlike resources at one giant instance that federates with basically nobody.

ML can be applied in a great number of ways. One such way could be content moderation, especially detecting people who use alternate accounts to reply to their own content or manipulate votes etc.

By including IP addresses with the comments they could correlate who said what where and better learn how to detect similar posting styles despite deliberate attempts to appear to be someone else.

It’s a legitimate use case. Not sure about the legality… but I doubt google or reddit would ever acknowledge what data is included unless they believed liability was minimal. So far they haven’t acknowledged anything beyond the deal existing afaik.

Gut feel based on common tech platform procedures, right? (As opposed to a sourceable certainty.)

It would be PR suicide to disclose exactly what data is shared. Cambridge Analytica is a prime example of a PR nightmare with similar data.

I don’t even need to look at reddit’s terms and conditions to know that there is practically nothing stopping them from handing this kind of data over legally for anybody who hasn’t submitted GDPR deletion requests. I never trust compliance of laws that cannot be verified independently either because i’ve seen all kinds of shady shit in my career.

Since an IP address alone is not considered PII, can you prove that they did not provide IP addresses for each post?

Do you think it’s more or less likely that ip addresses, account names, private messages and deleted messages and posts would be included?

Remember that they paid 60 million dollars for this information and web scrapers have been capable of capturing subreddit post data for over a decade as is at a $0 price tag from reddit.

Where does it say they have access to PII?

So technically they haven’t sold any PII if all they do is provide IP addresses. Legally an IP address is not PII. Google knows all our IP addresses if we have an account with them or interact with them in certain ways. Sure, some people aren’t trackable but i’m just going to call it out that for all intents and purposes basically everyone is tracked by google.

Only the most security paranoid individuals would be anonymous.

Hey guys, let’s be clear.

Google now has a full complete set of logs including user IPs (correlate with gmail accounts), PRIVATE MESSAGES, and also reddit posts.

They pinky promise they will only train AI on the data.

I can pretty much guarantee someone can subpoena google for your information communicated on reddit, since they now have this PII (username(s)/ip/gmail account(s)) combo. Hope you didn’t post anything that would make the RIAA upset! And let’s be clear… your deleted or changed data is never actually deleted or changed… it’s in an audit log chain somewhere so there’s no way to stop it.

“GDPR WILL SAVE ME!” - gdpr started in 2016. Can you ever be truly sure they followed your deletion requests?

I can see it now, that ai model is going to be really, really fucking angry. lol

YAY FREE ADVERTISEMENT LETS GO LOSERBENCHMARK!!!11111

In all seriousness, these guys are ONLY the top google result because of all the “controversy.” They do it for a reason. Every time i’ve seen a thread talking about them i’ve literally downvoted it because the only way to stop the cycle is to just let them die a slow death which as far as I can tell is never going to happen. Their business model is better than anybody talking about them, posting about them, or generating ad revenue from making articles about them. We’re the clowns.

Yeah, sure, ok. We pinky promise not to use AI to generate leads that are then printed out on paper and put in front of a doctor’s assistant’s autopen for signatures denying insurance or coverage.

There is absolutely ZERO way to practically enforce this. An AI team can act like a black box, ingesting data and outputting hard copies that cannot be traced back to them. There is no way this will not happen.

“We’ll audit the company!” -> they’ll send the data to an offshore shell company that doesn’t follow the law, then the recommendations will be sent back.

Prove that legislation can stop this, just try.

Patent Proxy Services… at your service! We’ll register patents on your behalf for a small one time fee of $10,000 for low volume… or $10 for high volume! Plus the cost of actually applying for patent.

You provide all completed paperwork sans author.

Individuals who let their names used on behalf of this service have a contract with the company that pays them $5 for a submission and all they had to do was go on a website and fill in their personal info and hit confirm then accept a digital signed document stating that all patents they register belong to the company. Surely the poors will accept $5 at no cost to them.

“This infringes on advertisers constitutional right to deceive the public for personal gain based on our historical tradition of fucking the average american”-US Supreme Court Conservatives.

SEO, the methodology of ruining Google’s algorithm and enshittifying everything for marketing gains.

He doesn’t need to own 25% of tesla’s shares to be given 25% of voting power. It’s very common for different classes of shares for a company to exist that have entirely different voting rights.

Laws are to protect the haves from the have-nots.

I think it’s pretty amazing when people just run with the dogma that empowers billionaires.

Every creator hopes they’ll be the next taylor swift and that they’ll retain control of their art for those life + 70 years and make enough to create their own little dynasty.

The reality is that long duration copyright is almost exclusively a tool of the already wealthy, not a tool for the not-yet-wealthy. As technology improves it will be easier and easier for wealth to control the system and deny the little guy’s copyright on grounds that you used something from their vast portfolio of copyright/patent/trademark/ipmonopolyrulelegalbullshit. Already civil legal disputes are largely a function of who has the most money.

I don’t have the solution that helps artists earn a living, but it doesn’t seem like copyright is doing them many favors as-is unless they are retired rockstars who have already earned in excess of the typical middle class lifetime earnings by the time they hit 35, or way earlier.

I pinky promise to watermark my ai works!!!

Come on. If I use an ai tool to generate something and incorporate it to a released product… how is that any different than googling for an idea and incorporating it into my released product? Why is a search aggregator: a thing that takes all the information you allow it to off of a site and presents it to the public ANY different? You’re using an algorithm to get an output that you desire based on an input.

Given technological progress and efficiency improvements I would argue that 2023 is the year the gpu ran backwards. We’ve been in a rut since 2020… and arguably since the 2018 crypto explosion.

I would like to propose an alternative solution: Force broadband providers to offer low cost service to families that need it. Don’t subsidize it, just force it.

Internet connections cost next to nothing to maintain. The telecoms can afford it.

This is one of those things where I don’t really agree with the law on.

Shoplifters come back again and again and many try to screw with checkout people with coupon scams or simply know where in the store to go to hide the things they want to steal.

Verkada (a company that supplies cameras and the software to use them) has this kind of functionality built-in. All it does is let you setup alerts for people who are persons of interest. It’s not perfect but anyone paying attention can tell that the person on camera being alerted is the same as the POI or not. It doesn’t eliminate the human interactions needed to actually prevent shoplifting, but it does let you know who to focus on when they come in.

Normal store employees don’t get access to things like camera systems. Security / loss prevention employees are typically the ones with access and who would see a notification and then watch for someone to put things in a purse or pocket and try to walk out of the store.

So all they’re saying is “do not scrutinize this known thief unless you yourself remember them” which is pretty absurd. If someone doesn’t steal there isn’t a problem, and if there is the footage will back up the innocence (or guilt!) I don’t even know how this became a case.

This could be so easily abused…

Hey guys why do all my lights turn off and on when my neighbor uses a microwave?