• EndOfLine@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Not the first time people “bought” digital media only to have it taken away.

    Physical media or local downloads is the way to go.

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      Apple did it to apps I bought years ago, Microsoft has done it with Live Arcade games I can no longer redownload, and Nintendo closed their online stores to consoles they stopped supporting. The only store I can think of at the moment which doesn’t seem to fuck people is Steam (perhaps Epic but it’s too new to cast opinions on).

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          Not exactly Valve’s fault

          “To be fair, with the servers shutdown, the game would have been impossible to play anyways. This isn’t simply because it’s an online-only game. In fact, Order of War: Challenge has 18 single-player missions as well. But due to always-online DRM, even the single-player portion of the game requires the servers to be up and running.”

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            I guess it’s the Always-On DRM that’s the issue. Best get rid of that entirely, or force developers to disclose IN LARGE PRINT if a game has it, like they did with parental warning stickers in the late 1980’s. And I mean FORCE, as in “you can’t be on Steam/whatever because you have unnecessary DRM”

            I can still play World Of Goo any time I damn well choose because I paid for it and I own it and the developers were probably not inherently evil humans.

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            Also, at the end of the article:

            “Update: It appears that contrary to what I first believed, the single-player portion of the game—Order of War without the “Challenge”—is still available on Steam, and only the multi-player content has been removed.”

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      11 months ago

      No DRM is the way to go, physical or digital. Some physical DRM can revoke the licence on the disk (like Blu-ray)

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        How? It would need an internet connection to revoke it, and you can’t write to the Blu-ray disc can you? In other words, you could just turn off internet connection from the player?

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          Blu-Ray discs can carry offline updates that blacklist other discs. All players must support these updates as part of licensing the technology. All your blu-rays may play today, but if an update comes along to revoke the license on a title and you play a disc that carries the update that enables that revocation, it won’t play back on your device. It’s occasionally been used to disable known pirated discs, and so far hasn’t been used on licensed materials, but “so far” is never much assurance.

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      I had to change my email/account with google and couldn’t port the apps in the gplay store. This was mostly due to having a google domains that did many years ago, but still didn’t get any solution when I explained that to the google customer service. It was clear to me that is not worth wasting a penny there.

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      Physical media or local downloads is the way to go.

      PS5 games are like 90 GB. A DVD ROM stores 4.7 GB.

      Its over.

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    Sony should invent a way for people to buy a movie, own it, and be able to store it on a shelf or something. Maybe we can even lend them to friends or start a library.

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        I wouldn’t say tech illiterate so much as ignorant or they truly don’t care.

        Unlimited plans and monthly financing means even a homeless person can get a really decent phone with great service. I’m surprised when I see anyone with more than a phone or tablet.

        ISPs won’t even upgrade services is low income areas because no one buys internet service. They just don’t need it.

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        I’ve worked in IT for over 26 years, have my own Plex server in my home (that’s also connected directly to the TV in my living room via HDMI), and own and use several laptops.

        Still, I’ve “bought” a number of movies from Microsoft largely thanks to the fact that I can sync them to multiple services using Movies Anywhere and because they were basically “free” to me because Microsoft kept giving me $5 gift cards randomly for a while there and I couldn’t think of anything better to use them on at the time.

        I’d still be upset if they suddenly decided to yank those titles out of my library even though I don’t really rely on them as my only option to watch those films.

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    This is the unfortunate reality of current intellectual property. Anytime you don’t have a copy of something directly in your possession, either as a physical object like a BluRay, or digital file(s) on digital storage only you control, you don’t really own it. You’re just borrowing it, or more strictly speaking, you’re purchasing the right to access it until the agreement between the creator company (i.e., WarnerDiscovery) and the hosting company (i.e., Sony) expires.

    When issues like this come up, there are right ways and wrong ways to handle it. This is an example of a wrong way. Google’s handling of the Stadia shutdown was an example of the right way. Any game you purchased on Stadia was refunded to the original payment method, not store credit, at the price you paid giving you the ability to reacquire the game on another platform and/or in another medium. They even refunded in-game purchases of things like premium currency (e.g. silver in Destiny 2, or crowns in Elder Scrolls Online) which was a great bonus because you got that whether you had spent the in-game currency or not so it was essentially free.

    Personally, I’d like protection like what Google offered to be legally mandated for the purchase of streaming content. Sony has little choice in the matter if WarnerDiscovery won’t renew the streaming license. Legally, they must revoke access to the content, but currently they can choose to not compensate users who lose access to the content through these legal machinations and that’s what I have a problem with.

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    This is as good of a time as any to tell you guys that future Oscar winning movie, Barbie, is now also available on Blu-Ray and DVD, physical copies that you’ll always have if you want to watch it again.

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      Blu-Ray discs can carry mandatory software updates that change the functionality of playback devices, add “protections” against “piracy”, and could potentially revoke licenses of content on other discs.

      Media companies are prepared to screw you over regardless of wether or not you but content from them. I do believe in paying for content, but I don’t trust any modern distribution to last, so I have a couple backups of all the media I’ve ever purchased. And for formats that make it difficult to back up, I sail the seven seas.

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        Hard disk drives will last even less. The lubrication will dry up and the disk will seize way before the 25 year mark.

        Bluray is a fine back up media, I use them for stuff on my NAS that I cannot lose like precious pictures of family and friends. Not all of us live on am abandoned salt mine with perfect temperature and humidity for long term tape storage.

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          Hard disk drives will last even less. The lubrication will dry up and the disk will seize way before the 25 year mark.

          That’s what you have redundancies and backups

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              I don’t have an exact time span but personally I wouldn’t trust them as anything more than temporary device storage, they randomly die often

              Cheap, low quality flash, poorer QC, etc

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        Or… you could buy multiple copies of the Blu-Ray so that if one copy fails, you’ll always have backup Barbies at the ready.

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          No they’ll all fail at the same time 25 to 30 years in the future.

          You need to buy multiple copies and place each one in a deep freeze, then thaw each one out as the previous one fails. It’s the only logical response.

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          The physical discs degrade overtime. Getting 10 copies now won’t stop that, even if one might outlast another for a bit.

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      and the quality of a 4k DVD is really high, much higher than the downloaded copy likely is!