Yeah I understand that, i just wanted to show the futility of such small choices while using an Android phone, using stock ROM and using all it’s online features, it’s like using Facebook but with names switched and posting those chains saying you don’t allow to use your photos, instead of just writing the platform, also he’s IT, not some 60yo aunty who just got the phone
Also it’s an Android related community, not !privacy or !grapheneos ffs
Often I find myself downvoted for comments suggesting cloud based or non-FOSS solutions, even in non privacy or FOSS related communities, while I’m a fan of open source and privacy, sometimes those are IMO still a better choice for a layman end user, I understand Lemmy people are more tech/privacy/FOSS oriented, but this it’s bordering with toxic zealotism
Also it’s an Android related community, not !privacy or !grapheneos ffs
Well firstly, this being an Android community doesn’t mean privacy is an off-limits topic.
And secondly, that’s irrelevant, seeing that he’s not the one posting here anyway.
And no, downvoting you because you mocked someone for not giving Google his address book, pretty much saying it brings his IT credentials into question, is not “toxic zealotism”.
I might have worded myself wrong because English isn’t my native language, but I’ve already said my intention wasn’t to mock his decision to guard his data by not explicitly giving them to Google but the meaninglessness of his way to do so.
Because by using an always connected Android phone with all other 3rd party spyware like Facebook etc. he’s already vulnerable, he’s using RCS for messaging, he’s being tracked on so many levels and already owned by corporations, at this point the manual contact sync has little to no sense especially it’s visibly harder for him to do it that way to the point he’s complaining about it.
By saying I use Google provided sync I’m not trying to one up him because I know it’s a trade-off between privacy and convenience, same with Google Pictures, I respect his choice to not use it’s built-in cloud pictures synchronisation but IMHO on a phone without an SD card support but I won’t be silent when he starts complaining after losing all his photos because he didn’t to back them up
Don’t get me wrong I’m all for privacy, but degoogling without an on premise private cloud or similar solution is kinda troublesome at least
It’s always better to do a little bit to protect your privacy than nothing at all. And keep in mind that by uploading your contact list you’re not only giving up your own privacy but violating the privacy of the people in your contact list as well. If people downvote your comment it is because they don’t agree with your take, that’s got nothing to do with “toxic zealotism”.
Someone wants to make a small step to protect their privacy and you’re basically calling them an idiot and doubting their credentials for it.
Is it really so hard to believe that he just has different priorities than you? That he doesn’t want to trust Google with everything?
Yeah I understand that, i just wanted to show the futility of such small choices while using an Android phone, using stock ROM and using all it’s online features, it’s like using Facebook but with names switched and posting those chains saying you don’t allow to use your photos, instead of just writing the platform, also he’s IT, not some 60yo aunty who just got the phone
Also it’s an Android related community, not !privacy or !grapheneos ffs
Often I find myself downvoted for comments suggesting cloud based or non-FOSS solutions, even in non privacy or FOSS related communities, while I’m a fan of open source and privacy, sometimes those are IMO still a better choice for a layman end user, I understand Lemmy people are more tech/privacy/FOSS oriented, but this it’s bordering with toxic zealotism
Well firstly, this being an Android community doesn’t mean privacy is an off-limits topic.
And secondly, that’s irrelevant, seeing that he’s not the one posting here anyway.
And no, downvoting you because you mocked someone for not giving Google his address book, pretty much saying it brings his IT credentials into question, is not “toxic zealotism”.
I might have worded myself wrong because English isn’t my native language, but I’ve already said my intention wasn’t to mock his decision to guard his data by not explicitly giving them to Google but the meaninglessness of his way to do so.
Because by using an always connected Android phone with all other 3rd party spyware like Facebook etc. he’s already vulnerable, he’s using RCS for messaging, he’s being tracked on so many levels and already owned by corporations, at this point the manual contact sync has little to no sense especially it’s visibly harder for him to do it that way to the point he’s complaining about it.
By saying I use Google provided sync I’m not trying to one up him because I know it’s a trade-off between privacy and convenience, same with Google Pictures, I respect his choice to not use it’s built-in cloud pictures synchronisation but IMHO on a phone without an SD card support but I won’t be silent when he starts complaining after losing all his photos because he didn’t to back them up
Don’t get me wrong I’m all for privacy, but degoogling without an on premise private cloud or similar solution is kinda troublesome at least
It’s always better to do a little bit to protect your privacy than nothing at all. And keep in mind that by uploading your contact list you’re not only giving up your own privacy but violating the privacy of the people in your contact list as well. If people downvote your comment it is because they don’t agree with your take, that’s got nothing to do with “toxic zealotism”.