First they’d need to start making good smartphones again.
/typed this on a Motorola phone
I have a moto from 2019 and I’m proud to announce that its has better support for Lineage os and includes a headphone jack.
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I’m pretty happy with my edge 20, after going through a bunch of other brands in the past years. Any other brand I suspect may be better than Motorola is just not available anywhere near me.
I’ve liked my 22 moto
Which one??
My Moto G Stylus 5g (terrible name) is quite good. I can’t fathom buying a high-range phone when my $300 one has more processing power than I have ever used, including when playing games.
My Moto G Stylus 5G 2023 (worse name) works fine, but it’s bigger than I’d like. Also, the camera is worse than I was expecting.
I’d still be using my old Moto X4 if the power button hadn’t failed.
I’m a manchild so I like how big it is. The camera fits my purposes tbh.
They’ll need to lift their game on software updates for that to happen. Many of their handsets ship with an outdated version of Android, and they rarely see more than one major update.
This is what caused me to switch off Motorola. Their Moto Z phone with the magnet attachment thing was badass. But it was 2 major android versions behind, and was no longer receiving security updated by the third year I owned it.
Custom ROMs work well on supported devices.
No doubt, but custom ROMs aren’t on your average buyers radar.
True, although as far as I can tell they are getting a bit more popular on pixels as more people seek privacy.
Still pennies though
Even if they are, it’s a drop in the bucket. And I imagine they’re less popular now than they were in the early days of Android, during the height of Cyanogen Mod, and others.
I say this as a Graphene user.
It would help to not have a complete mess of a naming scheme for their phones. It should be:
Moto E: Budget/entry level Moto G: Mid-range Moto Edge/RAZR: Flagship phones
There’s no need to confuse everything by adding 20 different versions of each tier with stylus/power/activ/whatever added to the name.
What’s worse is that there are a bunch of country specific naming that leaves out what countries it won’t work in. I bought a device, returned it and bought the same device only to realize it doesn’t work in the US.
Skimmed through their 2023 lineup and it kind of looks like Samsung a few years ago. Still, not as bad as Xiaomi and their amazing models and suffixes, which is a consolation prize I’m not sure any company should be proud of having.
Moto Z? 🥺
Seriously top tier phones, Z Force series was amazing
Forgot about the Moto Z, I’d actually prefer they name their flagships that over Moto Edge
I just want the mods and the shatterproof screen back
Get me a decent phone with a jack and unlockable bootloader and yeah, I’d at least give you one sale.
I just want a refreshed Nexus 6. The 16:9 screen and front facing speakers made it so good for watching stuff.
“I would bet a paycheck that in three years we will be number three around the world,” Zielinski said, laying out Lenovo’s ambition with Motorola.
He’d bet a paycheque. Not like he’s betting his job on it.
TLDR: They think they’ll convert a large enough portion of the premium market (in specific geographic markets) that it’ll put them into the top three.
Zielinski said most of the users for the Razr smartphone have converted from using a device that is “not Android based.”
Part of the growth strategy revolves around the premium segment of the market, in which Apple and Samsung dominate.
“We’re going to place as many bets as we can because we think the growth of the Indian population is fantastic, and they’re wonderful people.”
This might work. Xiaomi used to lead the Indian market around 2015-20, but in the last 2-3 years their phones haven’t improved significantly. And Moto is doing the same thing Xiaomi did before, releasing phones with good specs at low prices. The big drawback with their phones compared to Xiaomi is the weak SoC (and for power users the lack of official support for custom ROMs).
I’m surprised it’s not already. Had to look it up.
Apple
Samsung
Huawei
Moto
So they plan on overtaking Huawei.
According to IDC, the top three smartphone brands last year were Apple (20.1%), Samsung (19.4%), and Xiaomi (12.5%).
Moto only has 4% market share currently…
Huh, didn’t know Lenovo bought Motorola
That happened 10 years ago…
They bought Motorola Mobility switch is a totally different company
They also bought the ThinkPad line.
I wouldn’t buy another piece of Motorola/Lenovo garbage for any amount of money.
I am never going to buy a phone from a company with strong ties with the CCP, and a history of installing spyware on its products.
only certified grade A American spyware for me please 😤😤😤
Have you got any sources for Motorola phones coming with spyware on them?
“The Chinese computer manufacturer Lenovo has been sentenced in the USA to pay USD 3.5 m as a fine for installing malware and adware (Superfish) on its laptops without informing its customers. By doing so, Lenovo committed the offence of computer break-in, as it wilfully undermined the security of its computers for users and made them vulnerable to cyber attacks.”
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2017-005922_EN.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45756685
You are probably going to say “but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones”.
Lenovo owns Motorola. If you want to trust the company feel free to do so.
Thanks for the info, I was not aware
You are probably going to say “but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones”.
I asked for sources on Motorola phones being compromised, but I ain’t seeing that still?
Aspersions don’t equal anecdotes > evidence. You show me that and I’ll shout louder than you.
Install LineageOS on it
Go back to making phones like the moto X pure and we’ll talk.
They are currently having 4%. There’s no way they triple or quadruple that in 3 years.
Lenovo laptops are trash so I imagine their phones would be trash too. I’ll stick to Pixel.
ThinkPads are often (but not always) great, but I’d otherwise 100% agree.
Motorola hasn’t had a smartphone I’ve been interested in since the first-gen Moto X, and they were owned by Google at that time
The old ones are good, but the newer ones are disappointing. I had a 9th gen X1 specced out and it was unusable for development. It would thermal throttle after only 2 minutes on anything more than 40% CPU. Keyboard was nice and screen was ok, but the thermals and battery life was horrible.
I absolutely had the X1 in my sights when I said they weren’t always great. It’s a laptop line that somehow misses every point of why people buy ThinkPads in the first place but because it looks good reviewers eat it up.
…Though you’re absolutely correct that this problem is getting worse with newer models besides the X1 chasing whatever reviewers liked about the X1 line.
My last three phones were pixels, latest is a Motorola. Finally having battery life again is sweet.
I had a Motorola until I broke the screen and pierced the battery trying to change the screen and damn do I miss the headphone port
I think he’ll lose that bet but more importantly, how is he laying down a challenge to Apple and Samsung when he’s not even saying they’ll surpass either?
