• Users of Google Chrome on Windows 10 and 11 are reporting that they have suddenly found themselves using Microsoft Edge, with their Chrome browsing sessions appearing in Edge.
  • This may be due to a bug or an accidentally clicked-through dialog box related to a feature in Edge that imports browsing data from Chrome.
  • The setting, called “Import browsing data from Chrome,” continually imports data from Chrome every time Edge is launched, unlike the one-time import offered for Firefox.
  • There have been concerns about Microsoft’s tactics for pushing its own browser, including notifications, pop-ups, and full-screen messages promoting Edge and Bing.
  • Microsoft has become more aggressive in pushing various subscriptions and features in recent years, making a “clean” Windows install feel less so.
  • It remains unclear whether the Edge data-import issue is intentional or a bug, highlighting concerns about Microsoft’s methods for promoting its own software.
  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
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    9 months ago

    Yup. In this case

    • roach motel - it’s considerably easier to switch to Edge than from Edge
    • appeal to emotion + appeal to authority + appeal to false authority* - “we recommend Edge, chrust us”

    *those are technically fallacies. However, by trying to convince a user on irrational grounds to do something, they become a dark pattern.

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      9 months ago

      Had to set up a new laptop for someone over the weekend and Jesus they just won’t stop begging you not to switch.

      Search for another browser in the URL/search bar, gigantic banner that pushes the actual search results off the page: “There’s no need to switch browsers, Edge is safe, fast, etc etc etc”

      Click the download button for Chrome’s installer, a pop-up notification shows up: “Edge is built on the same technology as Chrome, with the added trust and security of Microsoft” (fucking lol)

      Go to switch the default browser in settings, another pop-up shows up again explaining that Edge is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I have to click either “Try Edge (recommended)” or “switch anyway”.

      Then I spend 30 minutes navigating their maze of a settings app to change a bunch of ad preferences, etc.

      Then I spend another 30 minutes editing registry entries to disable Cortana, Bing search in the search bar, recommended apps.

      God damn I’m glad I switched to Linux.

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        And the same for a domain joined PC. Fresh install of Windows 11, open edge, find that you are already signed into edge on a Microsoft account that Windows helpfully created for you that mirrors your domain account.

        You told edge that you do not want to transfer over your data. And it says okay but you’ll notice a little blue hyperlink that says manage above that.

        And if you click that it tells you all the stuff it’s going to copy over anyway.

        So you sign out of that and you untick all of the boxes and you close edge and you reopen it and you find that you are still signed in to your Microsoft account that was created for you with your domain credentials in Bing search and you have to sign out of that as well.

        Edge has created an account for you, signed you in in two separate locations, and automatically set itself to ingest all of your account credentials and it does not even tell you what it has done unless you click through multiple paths to find it.

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          9 months ago

          The game industry is going hard on “GaaS” or “Games as a Service.” Microsoft is going hard on “OS as a service” because, in the same way, they want your data or your money as you use the product

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        And if you need to use Microsoft Teams for work it will ignore your preferences and open links in edge by default, so you’ll have to find and disable that, too.

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          9 months ago

          Just found this setting earlier in the day, before seeing your comment. That was annoying and such an unnecessary grab on Microsoft’s part.

      • 📛Maven@lemmy.sdf.org
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        9 months ago

        And then once a quarter as part of their “feature update” they’ll ask if you’re suuuure you don’t want to change your default browser to Edge instead of your normal browser.

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        9 months ago

        That’s awful.

        …my mum’s laptop being unable to run W10/W11 was a blessing in disguise then. I’m glad that I don’t need to manage this sort of junk.

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      9 months ago

      Fallacies are called that because they are effective but not based in logic. They are the dark patterns of thought, rather than technology.

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        They are the dark patterns of thought, rather than technology.

        That’s brilliant. Yes, it’s exactly this.