People are getting fed up with all the useless tech in their cars
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People are getting fed up with all the useless tech in their cars — For the first time in 28 years of JD Power’s car owner survey, there is a consecutive year-over-year decline in satisfaction, wit…::People are dissatisfied with the technology in their cars, according to a new survey from JD Power. They especially don’t like the native infotainment systems.

  • fubo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    1 year ago

    Some proposed design principles:

    1. It’s a car.
    2. It’s not a goddamn TV.
    3. It’s not your goddamn ads platform or subscription service.
    4. It is, however, a piece of life-safety-critical equipment.
    5. Because it’s a car, the driver wants to deal with car stuff like driving, navigating, fuel, roads, obstacles, and not killing people.
    6. They also want to make it passably comfortable by messing with the heat or AC, the fans, the windows, and the fucking moon roof.
    7. Messing with your phone while driving is Actually Illegal these days in civilized parts of the planet. This is for good reason: people get killed that way.
    8. If the car requires messing with your phone, or messing with something that is basically your phone, then you have failed.
    9. There should be a big knob with a fan icon on it. Turning this knob all the way to the left causes the fan to turn off all the way. Turning the knob all the way to the right causes the fan to turn on all the way.
    10. If I ever have to use a touchscreen to control the side mirrors, I will become an extremely unhappy ape.
    • zxo@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I would pay more to get a car with more buttons than you can comprehend and a small little infotainment system that allows you to play music than a super futuristic car with a iPad in the center and nothing else in the center console area.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        physical buttons for the important stuff; stuff like setting interior RBG lighting color and intensity? that can go on soft buttons.

            • Zron@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              My 2004 Honda accord had a good EQ, and it was all controlled with 2 buttons and the radio tuning dial to adjust the levels.

              There is no need for a touchscreen in a vehicle. A small screen for displaying information is one thing, but I should not be compelled to play with what amounts to an iPad when I’m driving a car.

          • Proweruser@feddit.deEnglish
            0·
            1 year ago

            Adjusting mirrors and seats can go on the touch screen as you do that before the drive and I don’t think those can stay at the factory.

            • Cortell@lemmy.worldEnglish
              01·
              1 year ago

              I think it’s hilarious the people waxing poetic about how dangerous it is to use touch screens while driving are downvoting you because they’re adjusting mirrors while driving.

          • Proweruser@feddit.deEnglish
            02·
            1 year ago

            Adjusting mirrors and seats can go on the touch screen as you do that before the drive and I don’t think those can stay at the factory.

            • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
              0·
              1 year ago

              No thanks, mirrors and seats are too important for the touch screen and sometimes need to be adjusted while driving, as you adjust your sitting position.

              And really, I don’t want to spend an extra 10 seconds (if you know the car) or 2 minutes (if it’s someone else’s) to get the seat and mirrors adjusted beofre a drive. I want to get in the car, adjust things quickly, and go.

              • Proweruser@feddit.deEnglish
                0·
                1 year ago

                How are you people moving in your seat this much? I never had to adjust anything but the rear view mirror and that is manual anyway.

                • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  My posture is completely different in the city, where I am constantly leaning forward and looking over shoulders to clear blind spots, and my foot is regularly on brake and accelerator. Contrast on the highway, where my head and body are mostly still, and my feet are flat on the floor while using cruise control. Since I’m not moving around as much, I regularly move the seat slightly to reduce pressure points.

                  Similar with the mirrors: For city driving, I want my mirrors a little lower and narrower to see parking spots while backing. For freeway, a little higher and wider gives better visibility of the blind spots without needing to move around as much. For towing, I want them even lower when backing, and even higher and wider on the freeway to clear blind spots.

                  Yeah, I might go more than a month without touching either the seats or the mirrors at all. But, I might also be adjusting both a dozen times in a single trip.

                • deafboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  We share it with other people. I, personally, would just ban short people, but they do exist and they love to move the seat away from my sweet spot.

                  If I had to use the touchscreen to fix it every time, I’d just leave it in a ditch and set it on fire.

                • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
                  0·
                  1 year ago

                  I’ve adjusted mine twice in the last month alone because I needed to fold down the rear seats. But also sometimes you borrow your car to someone who doesn’t have a memory setting. Or your car doesn’t have memory seats and has multiple users.

                  If I have to use a touchscreen to adjust my seat once a month, that’s 11 times a year too much for me. Buttons? Fine. Levers and wheels like in old cars? Also fine.

                  • Proweruser@feddit.deEnglish
                    0·
                    1 year ago

                    Um yeah, you do that before you start driving. All the situations you mentioned don’t necessitate adjusting the mirrors while you are driving.

                    Or are you one of those people who complain about distracted driving due to touch screens, but then drive off with completely maladjusted mirrors? Bro…

    • FireWire400@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      1 year ago

      No. 9 but for media volume, touch controls are garbage and gestures are even more garbage.

      Looking at you, VAG.

      • mawp@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        A special place in hell is reserved for whoever the hell keeps putting capacitive buttons on cars, ESPECIALLY when they put them on the steering wheel!

      • Thadrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        1 year ago

        No. 9 but for media volume

        Thankfully, all cars I’ve driven that had a touch screen also had some media buttons on the steering wheel. I’d prefer to have good old physical buttons in the center console, but at least you didn’t have to use the touch screen.