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compostgoblin@slrpnk.net to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 4 months ago

But "socialism" is a scary word

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compostgoblin@slrpnk.net to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 4 months ago
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    Yes, and the owner of the MoP in the USSR was the state, which was controlled by a small political elite.

    This creates a class conflict very similar to the conflict under free market capitalism.

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      On the southern Kazak steppe an aged yellow-skinned herdsman, dying, sent a last message to his son who had been village president and who was now elected delegate to the All-Union Congress: “All the years of my life were dark with toil and hunger. But I lived to see the new day. Take care of the Soviet power, my son; it is our power, our happiness.”

      For a socialist state, the simplest and most basic act of government is the planning by worker-owners of the expansion and improvement of their jointly owned properties. Planning of this type takes place not only in those central institutions of Moscow where the foreign visitor habitually looks for it; it begins simultaneously at the workers’ bench. Production meetings after work discuss shop problems, what holds back production, how much it can be increased, and by what means. These discussions are enlarged on a factory scale; they go from the factory to the central offices of the industrial trusts. Word comes back from the central organizations to the shop that the country needs certain new machines. “Can we make them in our plant?” Delegates from other industries which need the machines arrive, explain, mutually consult. The inventions and suggestions of the local workers thus widen into a nation’s plan.

      “The whole working gang is interested in production. The program for next month is discussed with all of us. The foreman calls a meeting and tells us that the administration wants us to put out 3,000 milling tools next month. How shall we do it? We discuss in detail; each of us says what he can do. It all adds up to 4,000. So the foreman goes to the administration and raises the plan to 4,000. […]

      https://comlib.encryptionin.space/epubs/this-soviet-world/

      Also see https://comlib.encryptionin.space/epubs/soviet-democracy/

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          When you don’t know anything, keep posting.

          You do not understand marxism, and then proceed to dismiss it.

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              Maybe. But you clearly don’t understand it all that well.

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                For what it’s worth, they evidently don’t understand more than you, considering a recurring assertion by them conflating the State with government in general, which is foundational for how Marxists understand Communism as a “stateless” society of full public ownership and a common plan.

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                  You have three things wrong there:

                  1. I am not american
                  2. I am not 16 years old
                  3. Understanding Marxism is (partially, you also have to… well, understand it, if it makes no sense it hasn’t helped you all that much) reading Marxist theory
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